Gender diversity has been a pressing issue within the cyber security industry for a number of years. On Episode 34 of The Cyber Security Matters Podcast, we were joined by Julia Weimer, the Director of Professional Services, EMEA at Lacework, to discuss the issue. Julia is passionate about gender diversity in cyber security, and actively participates in industry events and forums as an advocate for women. Julia regularly shares her insights and guidance with aspiring professionals to empower them in entering the cyber security space. 

Do you think mentoring and public speaking are good ways to spread awareness of women in STEM and tech? 

Absolutely. This is an opportunity for women to speak but also hear about the struggles of women in the industry. That helps people in the room feel like they’re going through a similar experience to the speaker or maybe find a nugget of inspiration to take on a new challenge or do something different. I think that it’s worthwhile to explore events like that with women and men. I say that based on the sheer numbers alone because there are more men in the industry, so we will need their help to get us to the next stage. 

I’ve witnessed the benefits of sponsorship in my own career. If we can bring more men into the mission that we’re on, we’ll have an equal composition of men and women in tech in the industry much faster. I really do believe that the more we can bring our male allies in the better the industry will be. We can empower them to speak on our behalf when we are not able to, bring a woman to a meeting that she wasn’t invited to, and speak up on our behalf when they know that we’re not being paid the same as our male counterparts. Those are opportunities for us to bring men into the conversation and realise it’s a men and women problem.

What advice do you have for male allies who want to stand up for women more?

Invite them to that meeting, include them in the conversation, and get their advice. Getting feedback from diverse perspectives is so important in the business world, because business can be quite boring if everybody has the same perspective and the same opinions. It’s it’s healthy to be challenged and see problems from a different viewpoint. Invite women to meetings, speak up for them, and if you notice a woman is quiet in the room, ask for her advice after the fact or ask what she thinks during the meeting to make her feel included.

What advice would you give as a mother who is successful in your career?

Being a woman and mother in tech specifically makes you realise that so many things outside of motherhood really don’t matter. It’s given me the confidence to know that if I need to take my child to a doctor’s appointment rather than taking a meeting, I will do it every day. I’m privileged to have a job where that’s okay and where my peers respect that. My advice to other full-time working mums is to lean into both. You can absolutely have both. Don’t let anyone make you feel bad for choosing that lifestyle. 

A lot of mothers have faced judgement for choosing not to stay home – there’s a lot of judgement that’s passed on women in general. But as a mum in tech, I truly lean into both. However, realising that you can’t do it all is important too. By that, I mean making sure that you can let your to-do list carry over to the next day. If you have responsibilities at home and in your job, you have to recognise that you may not get to everything that day, but be able to make the right decision for yourself. One of the key points when you look for a new role is whether you will have the people around you to support what you’re trying to do as a mum but also as a full-time employee.

What’s one piece of advice you give to someone entering the industry?

Women statistically do not apply to jobs that we do not feel qualified for. If there’s a job that seems interesting to you, apply for it. It just takes the first meeting for someone to see your potential or hear what you have to say. I think there’s no problem in saying ‘Why not’ and just going for it and giving it your best. 

Breaking into the industry has seemingly become harder. It is about using relationships to open a door. The more networking events you can attend, the more people you can meet and interact with, the better. You’ll meet respectable people in the industry who can help you and connect with you on LinkedIn so that when you’re asking for help and using the network to be able to do that, the right people will see it.

To learn more about gender diversity and the opportunities for women in the industry, tune into Episode 34 of The Cyber Security Matters Podcast here. 

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